In the first week of April 2020, a reporter from Fortune sat down, in the only way anyone sat down that spring, across a video link from the man whose software had made the link possible. Eric Yuan was fifty years old. He looked drained, his face wan. Behind him glittered the Golden Gate Bridge. It was not the real bridge. It was a stock virtual background, one of the standard options his engineers had built into the product, and it hovered behind him with the slightly too-perfect sheen of a postcard. Somewhere in the actual Bay Area, about forty miles south of the actual bridge, his company was absorbing the greatest unplanned surge of demand in the history of enterprise software. Daily meeting participants had gone from 10 million in December to 200 million in March, and would pass 300 million in April. Ninety thousand schools had signed on more or less overnight, and nobody at those schools knew how to run the thing.
"We thought their IT teams could help, but we were wrong," he said. "We are like the IT team for them."
Then the apology, which by then he had been delivering for days, in blog posts and interviews, in the flat and slightly formal English he had picked up not in a classroom but from teammates over two decades of writing code. Strangers were hijacking classrooms and AA meetings and funerals. Security researchers were taking his encryption claims apart in public. A word that had not existed in January, Zoombombing, was now in the newspapers. "I'm ashamed," he said. "I blame myself."
It is worth sitting with the image a moment longer than it wants to be sat with: an immigrant who had been refused entry to the United States eight times, apologizing to that country for a product that had become indispensable to it, in front of a counterfeit of its most famous landmark. Everything that would make Yuan's story legible, the ambition and the tenacity and the earnest, almost childlike devotion to the word happiness, sits in that frame. So does everything that would complicate it. The fake bridge was there because he had built a product that made distance disappear. The apology was there because making distance disappear turned out to mean letting anyone in.
He had been thinking about distance for a very long time. Since he was seventeen, on a train.
By the Numbers
The Arithmetic of Eric Yuan
9U.S. visa applications before one was approved
40Engineers who followed him out of Cisco in April 2011
$3MSeed round raised in June 2011, largely from friends and former colleagues
72%First-day stock gain at the April 18, 2019 IPO, from $36 to $62
30xGrowth in daily meeting participants, December 2019 to April 2020
98%Salary cut he imposed on himself during the February 2023 layoffs
$4.67BRevenue for the fiscal year ending January 31, 2025
Ten Hours by Rail
The train ride took ten hours. In 1987, Yuan was a first-year student at Shandong University of Science and Technology, studying applied mathematics with a minor in what was then called computer application, and the girl he loved lived far enough away that seeing her meant a day lost in each direction. One account says he made the trip about twice a year. Sherry would become his wife. The ride would become, in the retelling, the origin myth of a company worth, at one point, nearly $140 billion. He has told the story so many times in so many venues (Sequoia, the Stanford Graduate School of Business, Carnegie, a dozen podcasts) that it has the worn smoothness of a stone in a pocket. On that train, he has said, he daydreamed about some device that would let him "visit" her without leaving.
Founder myths tend to compress. This one compresses more than most, because the teenager on the train had almost no way to act on the daydream. He did not touch a computer until his sophomore year. "When I was in my sophomore year in college," he told Ben Thompson of Stratechery in 2024, when asked when he first used one. "1989, I think." Computers were expensive. You could minor in computer applications, in Shandong in the late 1980s, without ever having sat in front of one. The idea came before the machine. That sequence, the longing first and the tool much later, would repeat.
He grew up in Tai'an, a city at the foot of Mount Tai in Shandong Province, the son of geological engineers. The family was not poor in the way that becomes a story, but he hustled. In the fourth grade he collected construction scraps and recycled the copper for cash, an anecdote that appears in nearly every profile and that he tends to let pass without elaboration. By his own account he was not a prodigy. "When I was a kid, I was not always getting A or A+ [grades]," he told Sequoia. "I spent a lot of time hanging out with my friends, playing in poker games at night. Essentially, I felt like I got to enjoy my childhood. I really did not know what I should do in the future."
What changed it was newspapers. His father brought one home every night, and the boy began reading the business pages, stories about HP and Apple, about a valley in California where companies were built out of nothing. The name Silicon Valley entered his head the way names of distant places enter the heads of children in provincial cities everywhere: as an abstraction, then as an itch.
His degrees did not point there. After the bachelor's in applied math came a master's in geology engineering at China University of Mining and Technology in Beijing, the family trade, more or less, his parents' discipline reconstituted for a new generation. At twenty-two, still a master's student, he married Sherry. The train rides were over. The idea they had planted was, for the moment, dormant, and the young engineer seemed headed for a career underground, in the most literal sense: in mines, in rock, in the measurable and immovable earth.
Nine Applications
Here the sources begin to disagree, which is its own small lesson about how founder stories get made. Every account agrees that Yuan, after finishing his master's and living for a time in Beijing, went to Japan for a four-month training program, and that while there he heard Bill Gates speak about the internet, and that the speech rearranged his life. They do not agree on when. One account puts it in 1994. Wikipedia says Gates spoke in Japan in 1995. Bessemer Venture Partners, which interviewed Yuan at length in 2021, says 1996. Yuan himself, on Masters of Scale, has described it as the early 1990s. It is possible to be precise about the effect and not about the cause, and in this case the effect is the thing: he came back convinced that the internet would change everything and that the only place to be part of it was California.
He applied for a U.S. visa. He was refused. He applied again.
"The first time I applied for a U.S. visa, I was rejected," he said later. "I continued to apply again and again over the course of two years and finally received my visa on the ninth try."
Eight refusals over two years. The number has since been flattened into a motivational meme (there are YouTube videos titled, more or less, How 8 Visa Rejections Built a Billion-Dollar Company), but the experience it describes is not motivational. It is bureaucratic, repetitive, humiliating in the specific way that consular interviews are humiliating: the line, the window, the stranger with a stamp. What Yuan took from it, he says, was practice. "Looking back, it was good to practice my perseverance." He says this with no visible irony. He rarely uses irony at all.
What got him through on the ninth try was a sponsor. Yuan had come into the orbit of Min Zhu, a Chinese-born entrepreneur who had already built and sold a collaboration company called Future Labs, a firm that let several people share a document across a network at once, to Quarterdeck. Zhu then co-founded a new startup in the valley with Subrah Iyar, an Indian-born engineer and executive. They called it WebEx. Its first product let multiple users share screens and presentations over the internet. According to Bessemer, one of WebEx's co-founders sponsored Yuan's H-1B. The man who had been turned away eight times by the American state was finally let in by two other immigrants who had already gotten through.
The day before he left China, his father sat him down. The son had little money and almost no English. "He told me 2 things," Yuan recalled years later. "You need to work as hard as you can, every day. And every day, be humble. I will always remember that." He would later add a third inheritance, from his grandmother: gratitude, which he calls "probably the number one thing that really matters from my perspective."
Hard work, humility, gratitude. Three words, given to him by two generations of a family from a mining town in Shandong. He would eventually try to run a public company of more than eight thousand people on a single word.
In August 1997, at twenty-seven, he started at WebEx. He was roughly the twentieth employee.
The Code That Still Runs
For the first several years he did very little except write software. "For the first several years, I was just writing code and I was extremely busy," he told CNBC on the day of Zoom's IPO. He did not take English lessons. There was no time. "I just learned it from my teammates." The cadence of his speech today, its repetitions and its fondness for phrases like I can tell you and for sure and to be honest with you, bears the trace of that apprenticeship: a language acquired in standups and code reviews and late nights in a small office, not in a classroom.
He was good. He rose to vice president of engineering. Over fourteen years he grew the WebEx engineering team from ten people to more than eight hundred and helped carry the company from zero revenue to more than $800 million. He became a named inventor on eleven issued patents in real-time collaboration, with twenty more pending. But the quality that colleagues remember, and that he himself emphasizes, was not technical. It was curiosity about the parts of the company that were not engineering. "I spent a lot of time with the sales team, with the marketing team, with the support team," he told Emergence Capital's Santi Subotovsky in 2019. "Mentally, I wanted to be fully prepared to start my own company."
Even then, he knew. In 2006, WebEx sent him to Stanford for the summer Executive Program, and he left with a conviction so sharp he can still timestamp it.
The day I left the GSB, I can tell you what I was thinking. I wanted to quit WebEx to start my own company. I remember the exact moment. Seriously. It was around lunchtime. Unfortunately, WebEx had sponsored me [for the executive education program], and I couldn't really quit right then.
— Eric Yuan, to Stanford GSB, 2020
There is something disarming about that unfortunately: the ambition held in check not by fear but by a sense of obligation to the company that paid his tuition. He stayed. The following year, Cisco bought WebEx for $3.2 billion and Yuan became a corporate vice president of engineering at one of the largest technology companies in the world. That same year, 2007, he became a naturalized American citizen. When he chose a middle name for his new legal identity, he picked the initial S, after Subrah Iyar.
Consider that for a moment. A man names himself, at thirty-seven, after his boss. It reads, depending on your temperament, as either deeply sentimental or faintly feudal. It is probably both. It is certainly a statement about what Yuan believed America was: a place where you become someone by being chosen, and where you honor the person who chose you by carrying them in your name.
Cisco was not WebEx. The integration, Yuan would later say, did not go well. "The Webex team lost the passion and drive to further grow the business because many Webex veterans left and Cisco's integration with Webex was not successful," he told Entrepreneur. The product aged. The smartphone arrived (the iPhone launched the same year as the acquisition) and WebEx's architecture, built for desktop browsers in a dial-up world, did not adapt. Yuan was the person most responsible for that architecture. CNBC reported, with what must have been his cooperation, that the buggy code he had written for WebEx two decades earlier was still running.
What he heard from customers, he has said in a dozen different interviews with only minor variations, was misery. "Every time I talked to a Webex customer, I was embarrassed," he told Bessemer. "I did not see a single happy customer."
Not a single happy customer. The phrase recurs across his interviews with a consistency that suggests it is less a memory than a doctrine. It is the founding sentence of Zoom, and like many founding sentences it is probably not literally true and does not need to be.
By around 2010 he had concluded that WebEx could not be patched into the mobile, video-first product customers wanted. It had to be rebuilt from scratch. He pitched the idea to Cisco management. The answer was no. Accounts differ on why: some cite a reluctance to cannibalize an existing revenue stream, some an internal bureaucracy that kept his proposal from ever reaching the people who could approve it, one reports that his bosses were more interested in building another Facebook. Yuan's own account is gentler, almost diplomatic: "Cisco wasn't ready back then."
What he remembers is not the rejection but what it did to him. "When I was at Cisco, I wrote a lot of code," he told Sequoia. "Early on, I was pretty happy, my productivity was high, and I was a positive influence for others. Eventually, though, when I tried to make some changes, I wasn't able to influence others. I realized I wasn't the one making decisions and that made me unhappy. My team members felt that. My family felt it, too."
He began asking himself, every morning, a single question, one he still asks: Do I feel happy? In 2011, at forty-one, he decided the answer was no, and that he could not wait any longer.
A Market Everybody Said Was Done
He told Sherry first. She wanted to know whether he was sure. He was managing eight hundred people. He was well paid. He was at the age when most people who are going to start companies have already started them, and he was proposing to start one in a category that seemed, to nearly everyone who looked at it, finished. He told her, by one account, that he did not want to live with regret for not having tried.
In April 2011, he left Cisco. Forty engineers left with him.
It is hard to overstate how unpromising the venture looked from the outside. Skype was owned by Microsoft. Google had Hangouts. Citrix had GoToMeeting. Cisco, which Yuan had just left, owned WebEx, the very product he had spent fourteen years building. "He came to a market that everybody said was done," Dan Scheinman, Cisco's former general counsel and head of corporate development, told CNBC. "He was competing with free and some pretty big incumbents."
Scheinman wrote him a check anyway. So did Subrah Iyar, the man whose name Yuan now carried. The original company was called Saasbee, Inc., an engineer's name, functional and charmless, and its $3 million seed round, closed in June 2011, came largely from people who knew him: Iyar, Scheinman, the venture investors Matt Ocko and Bill Tai, and TSVC. Yuan's pitch to his friends was less a deck than a promise. "I had friends who really wanted to support me," he said. "So I sent my friends an email that promised I would work as hard as I could to give them a 10x return. And that I did have money in the bank in case the company did not do well, so I could repay them."
That last sentence deserves a reread. A founder raising seed capital told his investors that if the company failed, he would pay them back personally. It is not how venture capital works. It is how debts work in a family, or in a town.
Institutional investors were less sentimental. Yuan pitched many of them, and none wanted in. One meeting stuck with him. A venture capitalist walked him through, in great detail, every reason Zoom could not succeed against the incumbents. "At the time, listening to him made me feel really terrible," Yuan recalled. When he got back to the office, he changed his screensaver. The story, in its various tellings, is about how humiliation curdles into motive.
His counterargument was simple, almost aggressively so. He had talked to users of every product on the market, and none of them liked what they had. "I realized that if we could build something that would actually deliver happiness to the customer, if we could create a service that was even a little bit better than the other solutions, then we would have a chance to survive." He compared it to opening a restaurant on a crowded street.
If you have a much better service, if your food is delicious, if your prices are good, then you will have a good business on your hands. It doesn't matter how many other restaurants already exist.
— Eric Yuan, at the Emergence Summit, November 2019
In May 2012 the company changed its name to Zoom, after Zoom City, a children's book by Thacher Hurd about a lot of brightly colored cars. In September, a beta went live that could handle fifteen video participants; Walt Mossberg reviewed it in The Wall Street Journal under the headline "A Chance To Call 15 Friends To Video Chat In High Def." In November, Stanford University signed on as the first paying customer, a small closing of a circle for a man who had decided at lunchtime on that campus, six years earlier, that he would start a company. In January 2013, Zoom 1.0 launched with support for twenty-five participants, alongside a $6 million Series A from Qualcomm Ventures, Yahoo founder Jerry Yang, Iyar, and Scheinman. By the end of the first month there were 400,000 users. By May, a million.
The growth came without a marketing department. For years Zoom did not have one. Yuan's theory, which he has repeated with the persistence of a man who was right, was that a meeting product markets itself: every meeting has guests, and every guest who has a good experience becomes a host. The only thing to protect was the experience.
So he protected it personally. In the early years, when a customer canceled a $9.99-a-month subscription, Yuan himself wrote to ask why. One profile from 2020 reports that he answered every user who had a question about the service. This is the kind of detail that founders like to tell about themselves and that is often exaggerated in the telling; in Yuan's case it is unusually consistent with everything else known about him, including his refusal to travel.
He hated travel, or affected to, or both. When he visited investors, he went once, he told Forbes, mostly to check that they had Zoom installed on their machines. Every subsequent conversation happened on the product. Big customers would demand a visit as a condition of a deal. "Customers have always said, 'Eric, we'll become your very important customer, you've got to visit us,'" he said. "I say, 'Fine, I'm going to visit you, but let's have a Zoom call first.' That's usually enough." When he flew to New York for Zoom's IPO in April 2019, it was, by his own count, his eighth work trip in five years.
The man who once rode ten hours by rail to see a face had built a life organized around never having to make that trip again.
The Arithmetic of Happiness
Every founder claims to care about culture. Yuan claims to care about it more than about the product. "Company culture is my number one priority," he told Sequoia in 2018. "It's more important than the team, the product, the business model, or the investors. All of those things can be fixed and made better over time. But culture has to be established on day one."
The culture he established is so simple that it is easy to mock, and many people have. Zoom's company value is a single word: Care. Zoom's culture is two: deliver happiness. "Zoom started with mostly engineers," he explained to Five9's Rowan Trollope in 2020, "so I wanted to make sure our company values were simple and memorable. So, our company value is just one word: Care." Care for the community, the customer, the company, teammates, and oneself, in that order, which the company's own website still lists today, under the heading We Deliver Happiness.
The phrase is borrowed, more or less, from Tony Hsieh's Zappos, and when spoken by a billionaire on a conference stage it can sound like greeting-card copy. What saves it, mostly, is that Yuan seems to mean it with a literalness that borders on the eccentric. He describes the relationship between employee happiness and customer happiness not as a metaphor but as a transmission mechanism, almost an engineering diagram. "My number one priority is to make sure Zoom employees are happy," he told a Stanford audience in 2022. "I believe if you have happy employees, you're going to have happy customers." In 2018, Glassdoor named him the top CEO among large American companies, with a 99 percent approval rating.
The policies that flowed from the doctrine were small and specific. Zoom reimbursed employees for any book they bought, for themselves or their families. It hired, Yuan said, for two traits above all, self-learning and self-motivation, and it avoided résumés that looked too impressive. "We always hire at the director level," he said at a Canaan event in 2017. "We want to hire people who can grow themselves. Don't hire someone who is overqualified. You want them to adapt to your business, rather than you adapt to their past experiences." Firing was treated as a failure of the company rather than the employee, with one exception: "We never want to fire someone," he said. "But, if you have integrity problems, we fire you fast."
The favorite book, the one he names over and over, is Stephen M.R. Covey's
The Speed of Trust. "If there's no trust, there is no speed," he told YPO in 2020, paraphrasing it. Hold on to that sentence. It will matter later, in ways he did not intend.
The money side of the operation ran on the same frugal logic. Zoom raised $6.5 million in a Series B in September 2013, led by Horizons Ventures, the vehicle of the Hong Kong tycoon Li Ka-shing. In February 2015 came a $30 million Series C led by Emergence Capital, with Horizons, Qualcomm, Jerry Yang, and the biotech billionaire Patrick Soon-Shiong; Zoom by then claimed 40 million users, 65,000 subscribing organizations, and a billion cumulative meeting minutes. That November, Yuan brought in David Berman, formerly president of RingCentral, as Zoom's president, and added Peter Gassner, founder of Veeva Systems and a fellow believer in capital-efficient growth, to the board. In January 2017, Sequoia invested $100 million at a $1 billion valuation. Yuan refused to let anyone call it a unicorn. CNBC ran a story about it. When SaaStr's Mallun Yen interviewed him two years later, she reminded the audience that he "wouldn't let me say unicorn."
Across all of it, Zoom raised about $146 million in venture capital. That is a modest sum for a company that would IPO at a valuation near $16 billion, and Yuan's philosophy, which he summarized for the SaaStr podcast as spend more and burn less, was the reason. Zoom was profitable by the time it went public, a fact that was treated in the spring of 2019 as nearly exotic. Revenue went from $60 million in fiscal 2017 to $151 million in 2018 to $330 million in 2019.
Whenever he did go to New York, he had a ritual. He would picture himself ringing the opening bell at Nasdaq on the day of his own IPO. "I always told myself, 'I've got to work hard,'" he told the journalist Alex Konrad, years later.
On April 18, 2019, he rang it. About eighty employees, customers, and investors came with him. Zoom priced at $36 a share and closed its first day at $62, up 72 percent, having raised $356.8 million. Yuan's stake, about 20 percent of the company, was worth roughly $2.9 billion. His salary, per an offer letter dated December 18, 2018, was $300,000 a year. CNBC noted that none of the fifty companies in the Bessemer Nasdaq Emerging Cloud Index had a Chinese-born CEO. Now one did.
He was forty-nine, a billionaire, the owner of the best-performing tech IPO of the year, and almost completely unknown outside enterprise software.
That lasted eleven months.
Thirty Times
In early March 2020, Yuan ordered his roughly 2,500 employees to work from home. He did it twelve days before California's statewide lockdown. It was the last moment in a long while when Zoom would be ahead of anything.
The numbers from the following weeks have been repeated so often that they have lost their capacity to astonish, so here they are plainly. In January 2020 the Zoom app averaged about 56,000 daily downloads on Apple's App Store. Within two months it was averaging more than two million. Per day. Daily meeting participants went from 10 million at the end of 2019 to more than 300 million by April. Zoom became a verb, then a noun for a kind of exhaustion, then a metonym for the year itself. It was the fifth most downloaded app in the world in 2020, behind TikTok, WhatsApp, Facebook, and Instagram, and it was the only one of those five built for work. On April 30, Zoom joined the Nasdaq-100.
None of it had been planned. "When the pandemic crisis hit us," Yuan has said, "I can tell you: We were not ready." The product had been built for corporate IT departments, which set passwords and managed permissions and read documentation. The new users were yoga instructors and grandmothers and third-grade teachers and couples getting married in New York State, where, by executive order, a Zoom wedding briefly became legal. "Prior to the pandemic, Zoom focused only on business enterprise customers," he told YPO. "We had never thought of these users before."
Some of what happened next was improvised in real time, and at least one decision was improvised on the record. On March 13, 2020, in the middle of a video interview with Konrad, then at Forbes, Yuan decided aloud to give Zoom free to K–12 schools in the United States and several other countries, lifting the forty-minute limit on free accounts. Konrad's story went viral. It was, he later wrote, probably the most-read piece of his career. Within months Zoom was working with more than 100,000 schools and districts.
The engineering held. This is the underappreciated fact of the Zoom surge, the one that distinguishes it from the many companies that have gone viral and promptly fallen over. From the beginning, Yuan has said, Zoom's engineers had been told to write code that would not need modification to absorb a traffic spike of ten or twenty times normal. They got thirty. The servers mostly stayed up.
The man did not quite. "Sleep, eat, and Zoom," is how he described his life from January to May. "To be honest with you, even I get tired of Zoom meetings sometimes." On peak days he had nineteen of them. There was a war room. He told a Harker School audience (one of his children was a student there) that the period brought "more sleepless nights than at any time in my career." To keep going, he developed a routine that sounds like a cross between a monk's discipline and a science-fiction writer's: "Every morning, to fully recharge, I would fast forward to 2040 or 2050, thinking about the opportunity I have to help the world. In evenings, I make time to meditate, asking myself what I could have done differently."
He told the Straits Times, years later, about the moment he understood how big it had become, a moment summed up in the paper's headline as a child's question: Dad, how do I raise my hand?
Then the money arrived, all at once and in absurd quantities. In the quarter ending April 30, 2020, Zoom reported $328 million in revenue, up 169 percent year over year, and turned a GAAP profit; one analyst called it "the best quarter in the history of enterprise software." On September 1, 2020, after another blowout quarter, Yuan's net worth was estimated at $16.4 billion, up 360 percent since January. He gained, by one count, about $5 billion in a single day. Time named him its Businessperson of the Year. Carnegie Corporation honored him among its Great Immigrants. The boy who had once collected copper from construction sites in Tai'an was, by some measures, among the hundred richest people on Earth.
And through all of it, the apologies.
End Point to End Point
The thing that made Zoom win was the thing that made it vulnerable. That was clear by late March 2020, and to Yuan's credit he said so himself.
Zoom had beaten its rivals by removing friction. You clicked a link and you were in. No account required, no password required by default, no plugin hunt, no IT ticket. It was, in a phrase Yuan returns to constantly, easy to use, and he regarded ease of use as nearly a moral category. "It's too hard? Nobody is going to use that," he told SaaStr in 2019. "That's why simplicity is number one important thing."
Simplicity, it turned out, is also a description of an unlocked door. With meeting IDs posted carelessly to social media, uninvited guests began crashing classrooms and religious services with pornography and racist abuse. Researchers found software flaws that could let attackers hijack webcams. And then came the encryption question, which was worse, because it was not a design trade-off but a claim.
Zoom had told customers, in marketing materials and in its 2019 IPO prospectus, signed by Yuan, that it offered "robust security capabilities, including end-to-end encryption." On March 31, 2020, The Intercept reported that this was not true in the sense the term is commonly understood. Zoom's own spokesperson clarified that when the company used the phrase, it was "in reference to the connection being encrypted from Zoom end point to Zoom end point," meaning between Zoom's clients and Zoom's servers, where the company held the keys. The Intercept called the marketing misleading and dishonest. That spring, the University of Toronto's Citizen Lab published an analysis under the title "Move Fast & Roll Your Own Crypto," and noted that some meeting traffic and keys had been routed through servers in China.
Yuan's response was unusual for a CEO of a company whose stock was climbing by the hour. On April 1, 2020, Zoom announced a ninety-day freeze on new features. Every engineer would work on privacy and security. In a blog post, Yuan wrote that Zoom had "fallen short of the community's — and our own — privacy and security expectations." He turned meeting passwords on by default, admitting, in the Fortune interview in front of the counterfeit bridge, what it would cost: "For sure, it will have some impact. But we have to win back trust." In May, Zoom bought Keybase, a small encryption company, to build genuine end-to-end encryption. On July 1, the freeze over, Yuan reported that the company had shipped a hundred new safety features in ninety days.
The legal reckoning was slower and less forgiving. The New York attorney general closed her inquiry on May 7, 2020, with Zoom admitting no wrongdoing but agreeing to new safeguards. The Federal Trade Commission alleged that since at least 2016, Zoom "maintained the cryptographic keys that could allow Zoom to access the content of its customers' meetings, and secured its Zoom Meetings, in part, with a lower level of encryption than promised," and settled with the company on November 9, 2020. A consumer class action over data sharing and Zoombombing was settled for $85 million in 2021. And in a separate securities suit, a federal judge in California refused to dismiss fraud claims against Yuan himself. The defense had argued that Yuan's understanding of "end-to-end encryption" might have reasonably differed from the common one. The court was unmoved. It pointed to his advanced engineering degree, his status as a founding engineer at WebEx, and the fact that he was named on patents "that specifically concern encryption techniques."
There is a cruelty in that reasoning, and also a kind of compliment. The court would not let him be a businessman who did not understand the technology. It insisted he was an engineer, which is the thing he has always insisted on himself.
Two Governments
Some of the friction that Zoom had removed from its product reappeared in its geopolitics, in a form no blog post could fix.
Yuan had built Zoom the way many Silicon Valley companies with Chinese-born founders built theirs: with a large share of research and development in China, where engineering talent was abundant and comparatively cheap. In the early years this was a cost advantage, and perhaps an identity. A man who had come from Shandong could build an American company with Chinese hands. In April 2020, Citizen Lab warned that the arrangement could "open up Zoom to pressure from Chinese authorities."
The pressure had already come. In September 2019, five months after the IPO, Chinese authorities blocked Zoom, saying it had not done enough to suppress anti-government speech. According to court documents later unsealed by U.S. prosecutors, Yuan traveled to China in late October 2019 on what CyberScoop described as a high-stakes mission to get the service restored. Zoom proposed a "rectification plan" that pledged to monitor communications for political content the Chinese Communist Party deemed unacceptable, including discussion of the Tiananmen Square massacre and unrest in Hong Kong. Ten weeks after it was banned, Zoom was back.
Then came June 2020, the thirty-first anniversary of Tiananmen. Activists based in the United States and Hong Kong, among them Zhou Fengsuo, a student leader from 1989 now living in America, used Zoom to hold commemorations. Zoom shut down their accounts. When challenged, the company said it had to comply with local laws, adding a sentence that would be quoted back at it for years: "It is not in Zoom's power to change the laws of governments opposed to free speech." It later acknowledged it had acted at the request of the Chinese government. The accounts were restored, and the company promised "a new process for handling similar situations." A bipartisan group of senators demanded answers.
In December 2020, the Justice Department charged a China-based Zoom employee, Xinjiang "Julien" Jin, then thirty-nine and the company's principal liaison with Chinese intelligence and law enforcement agencies, with conspiring to disrupt the Tiananmen commemorations and harass dissidents on American soil. Zoom said it had fired Jin and was cooperating. Jin, in China, was beyond reach. An updated complaint unsealed later suggested that Zoom executives had been aware of elements of his work to a greater degree than previously known, though Jin had concealed much of it. Representative Mike Gallagher, who then chaired the House select committee on China, said that Zoom's "failure to appreciate this risk allowed the CCP to exploit the company's reach to silence Americans on American soil." Then, more memorably: "American businesses need to take off their golden blindfolds."
Zoom stopped selling directly to customers in mainland China. The geopolitical tax kept accruing anyway. In July 2021, Yuan announced his largest-ever acquisition, an all-stock deal for the contact-center company Five9 worth $14.7 billion. In August, a Justice Department-led panel, the Committee for the Assessment of Foreign Participation in the U.S. Telecommunications Services Sector, known informally as Team Telecom, opened a review, citing "the foreign participation (including the foreign relationships and ownership)" associated with the deal. Proxy advisers turned against it. On September 30, 2021, Five9's shareholders voted it down. Yuan's statement was cool: "financial discipline is foundational to our strategy." In a blog post he added that Five9 "was in no way foundational to the success of our platform." Both sentences were defensible. Neither mentioned China.
In the same autumn of 2020 that the Tiananmen story unspooled, Zoom made a different kind of censorship decision, this time under American law. It refused to host a San Francisco State University event featuring Leila Khaled, a member of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, citing the group's U.S. terrorist designation and export-control rules. Academic freedom organizations in the United States and Canada wrote to Yuan in protest. The company had discovered, in the space of a few months, that a communications platform becomes, whether it wants to or not, a jurisdiction, and that it would be asked to obey the rules of every government whose citizens used it, including two governments that regarded each other as adversaries.
Yuan rarely talks about this period in interviews. When a Straits Times journalist had lunch with him in early 2023, she noticed, toward the end of the meal, a big, burly man standing a few meters away, watching them eat. She had sensed his presence earlier and brushed it aside.
The Overcorrection
Here is a list of numbers that Yuan does talk about, with a frankness that is rare among founders.
In the twenty-four months after March 2020, Zoom roughly tripled in size. Yuan has put the number of hires in that period at more than six thousand. "We hired over 6,000 employees within two years window," he said on Masters of Scale, repeating the figure as if he still could not quite believe it. "6,000. And that's huge mistake."
The pandemic ended, slowly and then all at once. Offices reopened. The schools went back to buildings. Users who had never paid for Zoom continued not to pay for it. In 2022 the stock fell back to near its IPO price. At its peak, the company had been worth close to $140 billion. By mid-2026 it would be worth under $30 billion. In March 2021 Yuan had moved $6 billion of his shares into a grantor retained annuity trust; by February 2023, Forbes estimated his net worth at about $4.1 billion.
On February 7, 2023, at 9:15 a.m. Pacific, Yuan sent an email to the company. Its subject line was [Important] Changes to Zoom. Zoom would cut about 1,300 people, roughly 15 percent of its workforce. American employees affected would receive a separate email within thirty minutes, titled [IMPACTED] Departing Zoom: What You Need to Know. "For those Zoomies waking up to this news or reading this after normal work hours," he wrote, "I am sorry you are finding out this way."
What made the memo unusual was a paragraph near the middle. "We worked tirelessly and made Zoom better for our customers and users," he wrote. "But we also made mistakes. We didn't take as much time as we should have to thoroughly analyze our teams or assess if we were growing sustainably, toward the highest priorities."
As the CEO and founder of Zoom, I am accountable for these mistakes and the actions we take today – and I want to show accountability not just in words but in my own actions. To that end, I am reducing my salary for the coming fiscal year by 98% and foregoing my FY23 corporate bonus.
— Eric Yuan, internal memo to Zoom employees, February 7, 2023
His executives took 20 percent salary cuts. Departing American employees received up to sixteen weeks of pay and health coverage. The gesture was widely praised, and widely mocked: his salary for the previous fiscal year had been $301,731, and a 98 percent cut on that, for a man worth billions, was symbolically enormous and materially negligible. Both readings are correct. Yuan has always understood that a leader's most important financial transactions are often symbolic. He once told his seed investors he would repay them out of his own savings.
Six months later came the return-to-office mandate, and with it the strangest irony of Yuan's career. In an all-hands meeting in early August 2023, audio of which leaked to Insider, he told employees that anyone living within fifty miles of a Zoom office would now have to come in at least two days a week. His reasoning was about trust, which is to say, it was about The Speed of Trust.
Over the past several years, we've hired so many new 'Zoomies' that it's really hard to build trust. We cannot have a great conversation. We cannot debate each other well because everyone tends to be very friendly when you join a Zoom call.
— Eric Yuan, Zoom all-hands meeting, August 2023, as reported by Insider
Everyone tends to be very friendly. It is a remarkable sentence for the founder of a video conferencing company to speak aloud, and the internet treated it accordingly. But read it again with the whole arc in view and it sounds less like hypocrisy than like an engineer's bug report on his own product. He had built a tool to make distance disappear. It worked. What it could not transmit, he was now admitting, was friction, the uncomfortable and necessary friction of disagreement among people who trust each other enough to argue. The deliverer of happiness had discovered that too much smoothness has a cost.
In December 2023, Zoom was dropped from the Nasdaq-100.
The Digital Twin
In June 2024, Yuan sat down with Nilay Patel of The Verge for an interview that Patel later said was nothing like what he expected. Yuan wanted to talk about what he called Zoom 2.0. "I think, for now, we are embarking on a 2.0 journey," he said. The first Zoom had been a set of applications. The second would be a platform that did your work for you.
Then he described the digital twin. In Yuan's vision, artificial intelligence would eventually produce a convincing replica of you, voice first, later fully three-dimensional, that could attend meetings on your behalf, answer email, take calls, even make decisions. "I can send a digital version of myself to join so I can go to the beach," he said. You might have several, each tuned for a different purpose. He offered himself as an example of why this might be desirable. "Sometimes I know I'm not good at negotiations. Sometimes I don't join a sales call with customers."
Patel had follow-up questions. Many people did. The image of a billionaire sending a deepfake of himself to a meeting so that he could go to the beach was easy to ridicule, and the coverage ridiculed it. What got less attention was the motive Yuan kept returning to, which was the same one he had on the train: time with the people he loved. "Today, the reason why we cannot do that is because every day is busy, five days a week. It's boring," he said. He predicted that within five or six years AI might handle 90 percent of a knowledge worker's tasks, and that the workweek would shrink to three or four days. "Why not spend more time with your family?" To The New York Times he put it more bluntly: "If AI can make all of our lives better, why do we need to work for five days a week?"
The irony, again, is structural. To build the technology that would let everyone work three days a week, Yuan went back to working six. Fortune reported in October 2024 that after the IPO he had cut back to five days, the first time since the company's founding, and that the arrival of ChatGPT had sent him back to six. He insisted to the magazine that he was not a workaholic. The company he was working for was, by then, no longer called what it had been called. In November 2024, Zoom Video Communications became Zoom Communications. The word video was gone. The new mission statement, which the company still uses, describes Zoom as "the AI-first work platform for human connection." "We are way more than just meeting conferencing," Yuan told Fortune, and when asked about Microsoft and Google, whose suites he was now openly attacking, he dismissed them in the vernacular of his second language: "There's too many [other] things on their plates."
The business, quietly, had recovered its footing if not its glamour. For the fiscal year ending January 31, 2025, Zoom reported $4.67 billion in revenue and $1.01 billion in net income, with 7,412 employees, fewer than at the 2023 peak. Zoom Phone passed ten million seats in 2025. AI Companion launched in 2023; in 2026 came a product called ZoomMate, designed to "analyze, learn, and act on conversations to complete work." The acquisitions continued, smaller and more disciplined than Five9: Kites, a German translation startup, in 2021; Workvivo, an Irish employee-communications platform, in 2023; BrightHire, an AI hiring tool, in late 2025. In 2025, Yuan was elected to the National Academy of Engineering, an honor that pleased the part of him that has always wanted to be taken as an engineer first.
In July 2026, he flew to New York again, for Zoom's fifteenth birthday, and stood at Nasdaq, where he had first rung the bell seven years earlier. Konrad, who had covered both the IPO and the K–12 announcement, interviewed him there. Yuan was fifty-six. He still pinged engineers about bugs he found himself, still met with customers, still avoided most travel. He talked about Jensen Huang, thirty-three years into running Nvidia, and Larry Ellison, nearly fifty years into Oracle, as models. When Konrad asked what drove him now, having achieved his dream twice, the answer had the flatness of something true. "My business goal is just to keep going." And then, about the city itself: "Every time I'm in New York, I feel like we are in the middle of a new chapter. I feel my energy is up, and I want to do more things."
He did not say so, but the most telling product decision of that year had been announced three months earlier, and it ran in the opposite direction from the digital twin. Generative AI had made faces cheap. Anyone could fabricate a convincing person on a video call: a CFO authorizing a wire transfer, a candidate in a job interview, a colleague who did not exist. The technology Yuan wanted to send to meetings so that he could go to the beach was also the technology that criminals were sending to meetings to steal.
On April 17, 2026, Zoom announced a partnership with Tools for Humanity to integrate World ID, a biometric verification system, into Zoom Meetings, so that the person on one end of a call could confirm that the face on the other end belonged to a living human being who was actually there.
In 1987, that confirmation cost a ten-hour train ride.